saying is that they can't work because no employer can afford to hire them. >> i want to bring in daniel gross from the daily beast. as stephen was saying. most of them we talked to say they hate the dedae of raising the minimum wage. listen to a few of them. >> of course, it's horrible. the way it's going to affect everybody. i'm going to have to lay poem off out of my own company. i'm sure every local business owner is probably going to have to do the same thing also. >> i just won't be able to have employees. i just won't. >> everybody wants to make more mon money, obviously. at the same time, the small businesses are suffering. >> are they wrong? >> well, it will affect them immediately, but businesses since 1938, when we put the first minimum wage law have said you do this, set this standard, it will destroy jobs, destroy the economy. we are far richer and have far more jobs than we had in 1938 and in every year since we've raised the minimum wage. i believe in high standards. we set standards for things like pollution control, mileage, worker safety, time. >> and those t middle class families.